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  • Rocco
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Aug 2007
    • 6393
    • Country: Spain

    #1

    HELP¡¡ Ebay lier kicked my *** 200€

    Hello partners

    around one month ago i won one ebay bid for a chip set from MTM 3B engine to RS2 parts.


    http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

    as we can see this "gentleman" guy said just this :
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    Dear Audi 20V Turbo Tuning friends.



    Offered here my tuning chips fürn Audi S2 and 200 20V 220hp engine, 3B to RS2 conversion!



    The software has been programmed to approximately 365 hp and 540nm of the company MTM.




    For the conversion you still need the following parts: RS2 Turbocharger / Manifold RS2 / RS2 jet fuel pressure on 4bar / 300kPa Mapsensor in the ECU,



    modified or larger exhaust / cat tubes or Theorem Metallkat!



    I drove with my Audi about 1.8 bar on overboost, and about 1, 4bar holding pressure.



    Was going Ziehmlich violently especially the high torque acceleration my car from 3200U/min



    extremely forward and turned up very quickly and ran smoothly for GPS 280Km / h and more!



    Have fun with your bids!




    Sale by Owner therefore without warranty and return policy!

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    After all i received these chips in my home 2 weeks ago and me,very happy to test them the fast as possible

    Ok, i have already installed all the parts as the ebay seller said,and what´s the sorprise??

    cruising the AFR it is FINE ( between 13´5 / 14´7 )

    BUT in the first moment that the turbo it´s going to load pressure the AFR numbers are complete a S H I T ¡¡¡ ( between 15 / 18 )

    of course i´ve never continue the bost up to more than 1 bar of course testing only.

    very fast open the ECU again and MTM lier chips out for install again my 2.0bAR Hamon Motors chips that them works PERFECT with a very good AFR numbers


    yesterday i emailed the ebay seller asking him about wich parts i have to install for use correctly the MTM chips,and all the things he said is :
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    Hallo, ich spreche kein Englisch ich verstehe Ihre Fragen nicht! Was es auch immer für ein Problem gibt bei mir haben die Chips tadellos funktioniert!

    MfG Ronny Stephan
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    Google translate :


    Hello, I do not speak English, I do not understand your questions! Whatever it is for me to have a problem with the chip works perfectly!

    Ronny MfG Stephan


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    and then i need HELP from someone who can talk/write in German language ,because i dont trust a lot in the google trasnlater

    if someone can let a a hand to me please contact with me to make me a write test for send to the ebay lier seller.

    aniway he has more than 600 items sold.... and 100% positive




    THANKS IN ADVANCE



    -T.h.c. Thomas


    - ronnysdj
    RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
    BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
    LWB Audi Sport Quattro project
  • S2central.net
    Retired OG Mod
    • Jul 2003
    • 16590
    • Country: Northern Ireland

    #2
    There have been lots of warnings about chips on eBay - very risky business unless you know for sure where they are coming from.
    Paul Nugent
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    • Rocco
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Aug 2007
      • 6393
      • Country: Spain

      #3
      Originally posted by S2central.net
      There have been lots of warnings about chips on eBay - very risky business unless you know for sure where they are coming from.
      i know but.... i wanted to test an other different ECU setup in my car with all RS2 specs and i´ve "trusted" in the 100% positive feedbacks and more than 600 sold items.

      i am a stupid¡¡

      and very lucky for have installed my AFR wideband gauge... if not,may i will can destroy for sure my engine
      RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
      BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
      LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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      • quattronutter
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Jan 2005
        • 690
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        are you using standard fuel pump still?could be a problem

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        • s2_bo
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Oct 2005
          • 6067
          • Home: United Kingdom Current: France

          #5
          I can help you, PM me the details and ill translate for you.
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          • Rocco
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Aug 2007
            • 6393
            • Country: Spain

            #6
            Originally posted by quattronutter
            are you using standard fuel pump still?could be a problem
            i have installed the original RS2 fuel pump , working with 14volts for more headroom as Paul said me time ago.and the problems with the AFR comes in the first moment as i push the acelerator down

            thanks
            RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
            BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
            LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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            • Rocco
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Aug 2007
              • 6393
              • Country: Spain

              #7
              Originally posted by s2_bo
              I can help you, PM me the details and ill translate for you.
              PM sent
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              BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
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              • GazzaG60
                S2Forum Freak
                • Mar 2007
                • 4133
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                chips on ebay. you know they are a risk so i wont go there. whatb i will say is it may not be mtm or anything.

                the af's on cruise are rich as far as im concerned.

                paul maybe able to elaborate. the G60 used to suffer from what was known as digi-lag where the fueling took a dip when slamming the throttle. creating a lean spot. snstuning re-wrote the chips almost completely. getting rid of this unwanted lag. not sure if this is a symptom that can occur under a maf controlled system?

                im no chip tuning expert. i prefer to see whats going in before i hit the pedal.

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                • Jamo
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 21750
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  The alarm bells should ring when he says the 3B has overboost, ebay and chips why oh why oh why do people buy them?

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                  • Rocco
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 6393
                    • Country: Spain

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jamo
                    The alarm bells should ring when he says the 3B has overboost, ebay and chips why oh why oh why do people buy them?
                    yes Jamo, i saw the same as you whem read "overboost" in 3B engine??



                    i am a complete idiot i know but....

                    i hope to have early news from the seller thanks to Bo.he helped me with the test and the german language
                    RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                    BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                    LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                    • Jamo
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 21750
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      I hope you get this sorted bud

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                      • QuattroFever
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • May 2006
                        • 1360
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        send it back and claim your money back.
                        If you paid by credit card and paypal won't get on with getting your money back then just get your card issuer to snatch back the money.
                        Last edited by QuattroFever; 14 October 2009, 14:00. Reason: Im a non-thread reading idiot
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                        • Le S2 Audi
                          S2Forum Possessed
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 3805
                          • Home: Scotland Current: England

                          #13
                          Originally posted by QuattroFever
                          send it back and claim your money back.
                          If you paid by credit card and paypal won't get on with getting your money back then just get your card issuer to snatch back the money.
                          Not sure if the "Distance Selling Act" covers "Cross Border/Nation" purchases....

                          BTW this does not kick in for the Recipiant untill he "actually" recieves the item... Its not 7 days after the seller shipped yhe item...

                          But you are correct about the Card company or Paypal...

                          I have used both in the past and had no issues "As long as you know & Understand the basic's of the law"....

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                          • QuattroFever
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • May 2006
                            • 1360
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Thats what I put in before the edit but saw he'd got it two weeks ago so wrote off the idea.

                            Distance selling regs say 7 days, not sure if there's any exceptions, being that it's an electronic device that can't be tested properly until installed, who's to say that you can install it yourself.

                            Either way you've got all the grounds you need for a refund and I'll bet if you snatch the money back and hes got the ECU back he won't even argue.

                            All this being said, you're sure you haven't got any hardware issues?
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                            Ant

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                            • Rocco
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 6393
                              • Country: Spain

                              #15
                              well.... this is just the answer of the ebay seller to me :

                              Hallo die Teile hat eine Werkstadt verbaut ich habe leider keine Liste! Bei mir hat der Chipsatz tadellos funktioniert vielleicht ist dein Mapsensor defekt oder Steuergerät?

                              MfG


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                              translated to englsih with google:

                              Hello, the parts has a factory town, I have installed, unfortunately, no list! For me, the chipset has worked perfectly, perhaps your Mapsensor or control unit is defective?

                              MfG
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                              i dont understund why my car does not works well with these chips....

                              stupid bicht
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                              BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                              LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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